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Tweetomics: an omics seminar summarized via Twitter

July 19, 2012

[my tweets from a seminar I went to today, presented in reverse chronological order]

1:36pm
The middle-author problem: if you get little credit for your role in a study, where’s the incentive to check & vouch for the whole project?

12:58pm
Larry Kessler: As part of their training, grad students can re-run publicly available code and see whether they get the same results.

12:57pm
One Duke prof falsified a line of his CV, saying he got a Rhodes Scholarship … to Australia. Not really Rhodes Scholar material.

12:53pm
Kessler: Also, letters of concern to journals should not just be forwarded back to the authors of the article under suspicion.

12:52pm
Witten: How can 2 reviewers fairly evaluate a multidisciplinary 30-person paper? No way to do that, plus it isn’t their job.

12:51pm
Question from audience: role of journal editors and peer review in Duke case?

12:50pm
Kessler: Duke scientists wanted fame, promotions, grants … but weren’t aiming for royalties on diagnostic test. Wasn’t about $$ per se.

12:48pm
@smfullerton asks about conflict of interest, the elephant in the room. Duke scientists had vested interests in clinical trials?

12:46pm
Funders support discovery of exciting new approaches but are reluctant to support validation, so validation naturally gets neglected.

12:44pm
FDA needs to develop a guide on how to bring an omics test to the clinic. It’s been “putzing around” for a decade, Kessler says.

12:43pm
Institutions don’t always support multi-discipline work to ensure proper credit and accountability. What about middle authors?

12:38pm
There is a “bright line” between test discovery/validation on one side and evaluation for clinical utility/use on the other.

12:37pm
Kessler says we think we know how to do discovery and test validation, but lots of mistakes get made. Don’t validate on already-used data!

12:33pm
IOM report explains how to “correctly” translate omics diagnostics from bench to beside, and lists responsibilities of various parties.

12:31pm
Institute of Medicine report was released in March. Larry Kessler (who served on the IoM committee with Witten) will tell us about it now.

12:30pm
Aftermath of Duke debacle: dozens of papers retracted, careers of 162 coauthors jeopardized; public faith undermined.

12:28pm
The Duke problem was not just an academic one. The Duke papers, with their mistakes, were being used to guide clinical trials!

12:25pm
Keith Baggerly & Kevin Coombes of MD Anderson reported mistakes in publicly available Duke data (Annals of Applied Statistics 2009).

12:22pm
Concerns about Duke work were initially brushed off as “squabbles among statisticians.”

12:20pm
2006: Duke people started publishing high-profile papers on using omics to predict cancer outcomes. Others had trouble replicating results.

12:18pm
Challenges of omics data: (6) multidisciplinary analyses require cooperation and trust.

12:17pm
Challenges of omics data: (5) it’s hard to apply intuition to models with thousands of genes. Hard to tell what the data *should* look like.

12:16pm
Challenges of omics data: (4) expense of experiments and limited samples mean that results aren’t always validated.

12:14pm
Challenges of omics data: (3) complicated experiments and analysis increase the likelihood of errors.

12:14pm
Challenges of omics data: (2) Batch effects may cause results in one lab not to generalize to other labs.

12:13pm
Challenges of omics data: (1) many variables (e.g., genes) vs. number of observations (e.g., patients) leads to high risk of overfitting.

12:10pm
Recent @nytimes series “Genetic Gamble” highlights promise and difficulty of using genomics to guide cancer treatment.

12:08pm
Daniela Witten’s definition of omics: characterization of global sets of biological molecules (DNA, RNA, protein, metabolites, etc.).

12:04pm
Today’s topic: recommendations of Institute of Medicine panel on responsible use of omics data in clinical research.

12:03pm
Website for UW Biomedical Research Integrity program: http://depts.washington.edu/uwbri/

12:00pm
BRI seminar will feature Larry Kessler and Daniela Witten, with moderation by @smfullerton.

11:58am
Now attending the UW Biomedical Research Integrity seminar “Responsible Research in the Era of Omics: Past, Present, & Future.”

4 comments

  1. One quick thought: The statistical issues raised by these sorts of data are not really new, at least not qualitatively. Yes, “omics” researchers have massive numbers of response variables (e.g., expression levels of thousands of genes), and often have small sample sizes. But it’s not as if “omics” researchers are the first people in history ever to study multivariate data, or engage in multiple comparisons, or need to use exploratory analyses to develop hypotheses for subsequent testing, or to have small sample sizes, or etc. Mistakes like using the same data to first generate and then test hypotheses are literally undergraduate-level mistakes, which do not arise from lack of intuition about what these supposedly-complex data “should” look like. “Omics” researchers love to bang on about how huge and complex their datasets are–as if that somehow excuses or explains making really basic statistical errors. Yes, the typical features of “omics” datasets–many response variables, small sample sizes, etc.–will dictate one’s choice of statistical approach and constrain the precise questions one wants to or can ask. But that’s not at all the same thing as a license to do silly things like conflate exploratory and hypothesis-testing analyses.

    I only vaguely remember reading about the case in question, and of course there were many more problems with this work, including ethical problems. But in terms of the statistical issues, am I totally off-base here?


    • Nobody at the seminar was asking for a license to do silly statistical things. Quite the opposite, actually; they were arguing for stricter oversight, in part because results are used to guide decisions about treating patients. That aside, the presenters seemed to be arguing that mistakes are easier to make and harder to catch in a clinical omics context because of the confluence of factors #1-6 (even though these may not individually be unique to clinical genome stuff). I worry especially about #5 (inability to apply intuition as a reality check when there are hundreds of associations and perhaps no hypothesis) and #6 (giant research teams in which middle authors receive minimal academic credit and thus may not be highly motivated to worry about parts other than their own).


      • Oh, I know they don’t *want* to do silly statistical things. But it sounds to me like they unwittingly *did* do silly statistical things. That is, it still sounds to me like an unmentioned contributing factor here was “no one involved had a firm grasp of basic statistical principles”. Maybe I’m misunderstanding and the errors they made were quite subtle and technical, but so far it doesn’t sound like it to me…

        Perhaps if these people had read my blog ;-)

        http://dynamicecology.wordpress.com/2011/12/12/darwin-in-space-or-spurious-correlation-exemplified/ ;-)


  2. While it’s theoretically possible that nobody involved in the Duke studies had a clue about statistics, I think a more likely explanation is that the stats-savvy people on the team were not empowered to check the work of the others, or weren’t sufficiently committed to the project to do so. That is, irrespective of ignorance, sloppiness, or even fraud by individuals, I think a more general and perhaps more interesting point is that weird things can happen to large datasets collected by large groups of researchers, and that special precautions may be needed to address those.



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